HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby Chase Variant » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:28 pm

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UPDATE. NO NEW CHARACTER GLAMS ON THE BACK OF RORY'S BOX REVEALED BY HT NERDETTE TONIGHT. RORY IS A STAND ALONE.

Unfortunately, we're going to have wait for the next wave of Doctor Who glams :/


Wonder why they are doing this and rushing him out. I am sure they will update the later boxes to include him but this is a little weird no? Is this to appease us DW fans and get us to stop asking for them on all social media lol.


Probably just to have *something* new to have out with the premiere of the new season next week.

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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby HarryG5O » Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:12 pm

Okay I'm gonna say it. If Rory is being released alone- that really does make him the Lone Centurion. hahaha. Don't hate me please lol
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby Chase Variant » Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:29 pm

HarryG5O wrote:Okay I'm gonna say it. If Rory is being released alone- that really does make him the Lone Centurion. hahaha. Don't hate me please lol


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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

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HarryG5O wrote:Okay I'm gonna say it. If Rory is being released alone- that really does make him the Lone Centurion. hahaha. Don't hate me please lol


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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

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hailmary25 wrote:
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HarryG5O wrote:Okay I'm gonna say it. If Rory is being released alone- that really does make him the Lone Centurion. hahaha. Don't hate me please lol


=D> =D> =D>


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Wait, was he the Lone Centurion, or the Last Centurian? Either way, it works. =D> =D> =D>
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby HarryG5O » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:16 pm

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=D> =D> =D>


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Wait, was he the Lone Centurion, or the Last Centurian? Either way, it works. =D> =D> =D>


Just checked, and yeah it was lone. lol But like you said, either way would work XD
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby Vetinari » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:34 pm

HarryG5O wrote:Okay I'm gonna say it. If Rory is being released alone- that really does make him the Lone Centurion. hahaha. Don't hate me please lol


*Undignified snort!* Haha! Poor guy, he always get's the short end of the stick! (Vaguely hoping for an exclusive Doctor's Wife variant at some point!)


FawnyLovesFunko wrote:I totally agree with all of this. I don't like the look of the Titan figures either. I started collecting them before the Pops came out only because they had so many different characters. But I stopped with the Titans once the Pops were released and hope that someday, we have just as many characters in Pop form.

I also like the episode Nightmare in Silver. It's not my favorite but I don't think it's as bad as critics and fans make it out to be. I mean, there are worse episodes in NuWho (cough Fear Her cough). And the Doctor Who Experience is on my bucket list. Someday, I will make it to the UK.


Thanks - it's nice to know I'm not the only one who feels vaguely dissatisfied with the way Funko have gone about their Who-range, they seem to have attempted to follow their one-size-fits-all model for the fandom, without realising that as a 50+ yo property it has it's own peculiarities about what is/isn't desirable to the fans. Ah, I really do recommend the Experience - I've been a few times over the years :blush: and they're constantly updating it. (And it's a great source of otherwise hard-to-find merch, such as that variant of kid-Amy with the suitcase/duffle coat)

Painfully I think it says a lot that on the big Who-forum Funko have barely raised a ripple with the collectors, who seem to prefer to stick with the old very nearly dead Character-line of 5' figures and the Titans. Partially it has to be said because of a perception about lack of QC with the Pops, and partially, because well what's the point of owning an inaccurate variant of 10 regenerating when there's a very slim likelihood that the rest of the Doctors are going to get a look-in? With Titan the sets were fairly comprehensive even in the early days, and Character were infamous for the sheer amount of stuff they pushed out there. The Lego range whilst fairly popular has also missed out on a swathe of customers when it became obvious that beyond the 12/Tardis set not much was going to get made - again the older Character fakey-Lego range seemed to do better with the collectors back in the day because it pandered to both the casual set and the fans.

Ahem right sorry - I should probably point out that I do like Funko, and own a fair few of their products... But well their treatment of the Who-range has been baffling.

(In that vein - I'm painfully tempted by the 9' Titan Beast figure now that he's dropped in price... I could set him up looming over the Hikaris :blush: )
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby Jezter » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:37 pm

Nice!!! I'll get pretty much all and any DW Pops at this point, but I really do hope it's all new characters in the upcoming wave. I really don't think any other variants of existing Doctors are needed or wanted by the vast majority, but then I don't speak for them, just me, haha.

I'd like all of the previous Doctors, even if only one of each is made. Amy, Rory, Clara and Martha for companions.
And a ton of alien races/creatures. If they wanted to do a couple variants of Cyberman and the bright color variants of the Daleks, I'd probably get all of them.

I am nervous what DW might be at SDCC this year, since I was never able to acquire the 12th Doctor in the space suit, hopefully it's not something I'd hate to miss.
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby ruxy_100 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:47 pm

I guess it does become difficult with nearly 55 years worth of content to draw from. Where do you start?

I think they did well with their first wave - the current Doctor and the three other most popular Doctors (10,11 and 4), plus the most iconic monsters (Dalek, Cyberman, Weeping Angel) and something random and cute (Adipose). But where to from there? I see where they were going with wave 2 - providing companion pieces for the wave 1 figures (River and the Silence to go with 11, Sarah Jane and K-9 to go with 4), and then adding in the other era of 'New Who'.

I can see what they're doing. And I think it's a very tricky situation.

The first wave was great. But if they follow that model for future waves, how do we get companions? If they add companions into a wave with their specific Doctor, then they risk making the wave too focused on one particular era (which could limit the broader appeal). They also need to keep the line relevant - a lot of 10 year old kids watching the show probably have no idea who Matt Smith is, let alone William Hartnell. And parents and non-fans buying the pops as presents will go for the iconic characters that they've seen in passing (Daleks, 10th or 4th Doctor).

It's a tricky property to get right, particularly in fairly small waves - without suggesting me have 15 waves lol

My personal opinion on the best way forward is for each wave to have something from the current series of the show (12th Doctor in his burgundy coat and Bill), two iconic monsters/villains - classic and New Series (the Master, Zygon, Ice Warrior, Sontaran, Ood etc.) plus at least one classic Doctor and their most iconic companion. New series companions could be done as exclusives, like the HT Rory. And you could also have store or convention exclusives two-packs every now and then with a classic Doctor and companion.
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby Fawny » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:58 pm

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Wait, was he the Lone Centurion, or the Last Centurian? Either way, it works. =D> =D> =D>


Just checked, and yeah it was lone. lol But like you said, either way would work XD


This only tells me one thing...it's been too long since I've seen those episodes! Time to go back and binge watch again. :D
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby Vetinari » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:39 pm

Well the way it has been done in the past - before the great action figure collapse in the UK at least - was that every wave would contain plentiful supply of the current Doctor, at least one figure of the current companion, and then the rest would be any toy-worthy monsters from the most recent series. Now don't get me wrong, under Moffat I don't envy toy manufacturers, the monsters haven't exactly been toy friendly, and with the random gaps/mini-hiatuses in production that keep popping up I dread to think how any toy line could feasibly stick to that model these days let alone the fact that pops don't really target kids... But there's a reason they followed that vague plan, I mean somewhere in a box I've got a figure of a faceless little old lady, and Doctor Constantine (The Empty Child) because of that business model!

So for instance Series 1 did okay, not great but well enough for S2 to be released. They sort of got the mix right, and then S2 - immediately they start looking back. Ok, it was obviously an attempt to please the fans, but well the casual fans wouldn't have a clue who most of the people in Wave 2 were, and honestly a lot of the long-term fans are over-saturated when it comes to River, Jack, Rose et al even now 10 years later.

Honestly I think S2 should have contained Clara, Missy, and then the companions that double as cool monsters for the casual fans - Madame Vastra, Strax and possibly Jenny, and several more monsters (hell Daleks always sell - and the show itself has made a point of showing off just how many subtle variants of those there have been over the years; I'd love a cutesy version of the suicide-bomber Dalek from Destiny of the Daleks) as well as a variant of 12 - maybe Hoody 12. Eh - I'm not a toy exec, but I think where wave 2 failed was that it simultaneously managed to look too far back for casual people to want to pick the figures up, and not far back enough for the diehards.

S3 was an even stranger proposition with weirdly specific variants of already released figures, and Davros. Variants are cool, but honestly 11 could have had tweed jacket, green jacket/stetson, purple frock-coat before they had to turn to Mr Clever. I think S3 was a bit of a missed opportunity, given the long air-time gap S3 would likely have been the time to go from current-Who to classic-Who, and release a wave of classic Doctors, or perhaps gone all out with a wave of the Doctor's most famous enemies. Ranging from the actually fairly scary modern redesigns to things that are just amusingly goofy - so Daleks, Cybermen, Zygons, Silurians... And in a nod to the up-coming series possibly Movellans ;-)

Much as it pains me to admit it, older companions never sell as well as current Doc, current companion, current monsters/villains. Perhaps the older companions could have had their own separate chase/speciality line for the nerds, but well - CO who infamously made a huge number of figures never got around to some of my favourite companions (Romana, Turlough, Nyssa, Grace)

Hah sorry, bit of an essay, and my thoughts on the matter are probably full of holes, and I am very aware that Pops are a different kettle of fish/style of collecting than toys so there's likely a very logical explanation as to why the waves were laid out the way they were - but there's a damned good reason that the "Classic" range of figures in the other Who toy-lines tended to be more specialist affairs, and Jack, Rose et al were all long enough ago that these days that's probably what they count as.
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby addict2films » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:21 am

Vetinari wrote:Well the way it has been done in the past - before the great action figure collapse in the UK at least - was that every wave would contain plentiful supply of the current Doctor, at least one figure of the current companion, and then the rest would be any toy-worthy monsters from the most recent series. Now don't get me wrong, under Moffat I don't envy toy manufacturers, the monsters haven't exactly been toy friendly, and with the random gaps/mini-hiatuses in production that keep popping up I dread to think how any toy line could feasibly stick to that model these days let alone the fact that pops don't really target kids... But there's a reason they followed that vague plan, I mean somewhere in a box I've got a figure of a faceless little old lady, and Doctor Constantine (The Empty Child) because of that business model!

So for instance Series 1 did okay, not great but well enough for S2 to be released. They sort of got the mix right, and then S2 - immediately they start looking back. Ok, it was obviously an attempt to please the fans, but well the casual fans wouldn't have a clue who most of the people in Wave 2 were, and honestly a lot of the long-term fans are over-saturated when it comes to River, Jack, Rose et al even now 10 years later.

Honestly I think S2 should have contained Clara, Missy, and then the companions that double as cool monsters for the casual fans - Madame Vastra, Strax and possibly Jenny, and several more monsters (hell Daleks always sell - and the show itself has made a point of showing off just how many subtle variants of those there have been over the years; I'd love a cutesy version of the suicide-bomber Dalek from Destiny of the Daleks) as well as a variant of 12 - maybe Hoody 12. Eh - I'm not a toy exec, but I think where wave 2 failed was that it simultaneously managed to look too far back for casual people to want to pick the figures up, and not far back enough for the diehards.

S3 was an even stranger proposition with weirdly specific variants of already released figures, and Davros. Variants are cool, but honestly 11 could have had tweed jacket, green jacket/stetson, purple frock-coat before they had to turn to Mr Clever. I think S3 was a bit of a missed opportunity, given the long air-time gap S3 would likely have been the time to go from current-Who to classic-Who, and release a wave of classic Doctors, or perhaps gone all out with a wave of the Doctor's most famous enemies. Ranging from the actually fairly scary modern redesigns to things that are just amusingly goofy - so Daleks, Cybermen, Zygons, Silurians... And in a nod to the up-coming series possibly Movellans ;-)

Much as it pains me to admit it, older companions never sell as well as current Doc, current companion, current monsters/villains. Perhaps the older companions could have had their own separate chase/speciality line for the nerds, but well - CO who infamously made a huge number of figures never got around to some of my favourite companions (Romana, Turlough, Nyssa, Grace)

Hah sorry, bit of an essay, and my thoughts on the matter are probably full of holes, and I am very aware that Pops are a different kettle of fish/style of collecting than toys so there's likely a very logical explanation as to why the waves were laid out the way they were - but there's a damned good reason that the "Classic" range of figures in the other Who toy-lines tended to be more specialist affairs, and Jack, Rose et al were all long enough ago that these days that's probably what they count as.



I agree with everything you said, specifically with WAVE 2, they were way past the RTD era already and people were begging for amy, rory and clara to begin with when Funko announced that they were going to make Doctor Who pops.
However, WAVE 3 didn't count as a real wave, the lead designer on pops said that the new characters had been pulled and replaced with variants because the second wave did so poorly. They re-released a bunch of doctors just to se if people still had an interest in them. Clearly, it did well enough for them to have a wave 4. I hope that Funko makes a good wave and actually listens to their fans.

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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby saul_damascus » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:19 am

No more variants of doctors we already have. Pod is cool. Wouldn't mind Donna and harriet Jones prime minister.
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby Fawny » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:22 am

saul_damascus wrote:No more variants of doctors we already have. Pod is cool. Wouldn't mind Donna and harriet Jones prime minister.


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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby HarryG5O » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:27 am

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saul_damascus wrote:No more variants of doctors we already have. Pod is cool. Wouldn't mind Donna and harriet Jones prime minister.


Yes, Harriet! I want her flashing that badge too. :D


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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

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HarryG5O wrote:
FawnyLovesFunko wrote:
saul_damascus wrote:No more variants of doctors we already have. Pod is cool. Wouldn't mind Donna and harriet Jones prime minister.


Yes, Harriet! I want her flashing that badge too. :D


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Yes, Harriet! I want her flashing that badge too. :D


YES. WE KNOW WHO SHE IS!


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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby Jezter » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:49 pm

I know others have mentioned him, but I must say, putting Doctors, full fledge companions and aliens aside, I really want Wilfred Mott. That man made me feel more emotions in just an episode or two than a ton of other characters. He will be me when I'm old and realize I'll never get into space, or see aliens, or meet the Doctor.

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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby Fawny » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:58 pm

Jezter wrote:I know others have mentioned him, but I must say, putting Doctors, full fledge companions and aliens aside, I really want Wilfred Mott. That man made me feel more emotions in just an episode or two than a ton of other characters. He will be me when I'm old and realize I'll never get into space, or see aliens, or meet the Doctor.

I need a pop of him.


I love Wilfred more than words can say. He was one of my favs as well. As for Sylvia, not one of my favs. lol
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby ruxy_100 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:47 pm

Vetinari wrote:Well the way it has been done in the past - before the great action figure collapse in the UK at least - was that every wave would contain plentiful supply of the current Doctor, at least one figure of the current companion, and then the rest would be any toy-worthy monsters from the most recent series. Now don't get me wrong, under Moffat I don't envy toy manufacturers, the monsters haven't exactly been toy friendly, and with the random gaps/mini-hiatuses in production that keep popping up I dread to think how any toy line could feasibly stick to that model these days let alone the fact that pops don't really target kids... But there's a reason they followed that vague plan, I mean somewhere in a box I've got a figure of a faceless little old lady, and Doctor Constantine (The Empty Child) because of that business model!

So for instance Series 1 did okay, not great but well enough for S2 to be released. They sort of got the mix right, and then S2 - immediately they start looking back. Ok, it was obviously an attempt to please the fans, but well the casual fans wouldn't have a clue who most of the people in Wave 2 were, and honestly a lot of the long-term fans are over-saturated when it comes to River, Jack, Rose et al even now 10 years later.

Honestly I think S2 should have contained Clara, Missy, and then the companions that double as cool monsters for the casual fans - Madame Vastra, Strax and possibly Jenny, and several more monsters (hell Daleks always sell - and the show itself has made a point of showing off just how many subtle variants of those there have been over the years; I'd love a cutesy version of the suicide-bomber Dalek from Destiny of the Daleks) as well as a variant of 12 - maybe Hoody 12. Eh - I'm not a toy exec, but I think where wave 2 failed was that it simultaneously managed to look too far back for casual people to want to pick the figures up, and not far back enough for the diehards.

S3 was an even stranger proposition with weirdly specific variants of already released figures, and Davros. Variants are cool, but honestly 11 could have had tweed jacket, green jacket/stetson, purple frock-coat before they had to turn to Mr Clever. I think S3 was a bit of a missed opportunity, given the long air-time gap S3 would likely have been the time to go from current-Who to classic-Who, and release a wave of classic Doctors, or perhaps gone all out with a wave of the Doctor's most famous enemies. Ranging from the actually fairly scary modern redesigns to things that are just amusingly goofy - so Daleks, Cybermen, Zygons, Silurians... And in a nod to the up-coming series possibly Movellans ;-)

Much as it pains me to admit it, older companions never sell as well as current Doc, current companion, current monsters/villains. Perhaps the older companions could have had their own separate chase/speciality line for the nerds, but well - CO who infamously made a huge number of figures never got around to some of my favourite companions (Romana, Turlough, Nyssa, Grace)

Hah sorry, bit of an essay, and my thoughts on the matter are probably full of holes, and I am very aware that Pops are a different kettle of fish/style of collecting than toys so there's likely a very logical explanation as to why the waves were laid out the way they were - but there's a damned good reason that the "Classic" range of figures in the other Who toy-lines tended to be more specialist affairs, and Jack, Rose et al were all long enough ago that these days that's probably what they count as.


Excellent points. I completely agree about Series 2.

A few thoughts of my own, having collected the CO figures for over ten years.

The CO action figures first came out at the height of Doctor Who popularity. They are made in the UK and sold primarily in the UK. At it was at a time when anyone would buy anything Doctor Who related. CO started off with the intention of making at least one figure from every episode of the new series, hence why we ended up with the Hoix and faceless Grandma Connelly.

But even at the height of popularity for the range, people were only really interested in characters from the current series. We only got one widely available wave of classic figures. The second wave had a limited run, and then every single classic figure since then has been either a SDCC exclusive or an exclusive commissioned by Forbidden Planet and Underground Toys. This happened because the classic figures didn't sell well to the general public. And this was at the height of popularity for both the show itself, and the CO toy line - in the UK.

Interest in Doctor Who has increased in the US since then, but overall interest in the show and associated merchandise seems to have crashed.

The CO line nearly died a couple of years ago. They changed the scale to try to appeal to kids, and only focused on Doctors, Daleks and other iconic monsters. And the line still failed.

The 2009 gap year nearly killed things. And Doctor Who has been so inconsistent in its airing since then, that it's difficult to release merchandise to tie in with it. By the time figures get made, the series has finished. And if it's not on again for 2 years, people are going to lose interest.

So yeah - I think they need to wait until the series is on the air to release waves with the current Doctor and companion and monsters from that series. And the older figures should be targeted more at collectors - through exclusives.
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Postby ruxy_100 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:52 pm

This is how many figures CO has made over the years, and we still don't have a companion for each Doctor lol

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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby Jezter » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:52 pm

ruxy_100 wrote:This is how many figures CO has made over the years, and we still don't have a companion for each Doctor lol

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That is simply...amazing! How do you keep them dust free since they are on open shelves. I wish I could zoom in and look at this closer, haha.
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby WickedWonderland » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:10 am

I'll care when they make a Donna.

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COOL NEWS ABOUT RORY. IS THERE A RELEASE DATE?
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby addict2films » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:44 pm

NESSNODDER wrote:COOL NEWS ABOUT RORY. IS THERE A RELEASE DATE?


It's last week of april/first week of May.

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addict2films wrote:
NESSNODDER wrote:COOL NEWS ABOUT RORY. IS THERE A RELEASE DATE?


It's last week of april/first week of May.

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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby Nooklin » Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:24 pm

More Daleks!!! and Weeping Angels!!

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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby Libertyroxx » Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:13 pm

Personally, I want to see more from the 10th Doctor/RTD days. If people say that was too long ago then it doesn't make sense to want Pops from 11s time either. Matt Smith hasn't been the Doctor for years now. At this point, it makes just as much sense to make Mickey, or Wilfred, or Donna, as it does to make Amy and Rory. I loved everything about 10s time and was less in love with 11s tenure. Just my two cents, everyone has a Doctor they prefer. :)
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby saul_damascus » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:17 pm

paxderomano wrote:Personally, I want to see more from the 10th Doctor/RTD days. If people say that was too long ago then it doesn't make sense to want Pops from 11s time either. Matt Smith hasn't been the Doctor for years now. At this point, it makes just as much sense to make Mickey, or Milfred, or Donna, as it does to make Amy and Rory. I loved everything about 10s time and was less in love with 11s tenure. Just my two cents, everyone has a Doctor they prefer. :)

Ah yes. Good ole Milfred. Who could forget.

I don't think any are too far off. Would love Martha Donna and Mickey.
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby Vetinari » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:47 pm

ruxy_100 wrote:Excellent points. I completely agree about Series 2.

A few thoughts of my own, having collected the CO figures for over ten years.

The CO action figures first came out at the height of Doctor Who popularity. They are made in the UK and sold primarily in the UK. At it was at a time when anyone would buy anything Doctor Who related. CO started off with the intention of making at least one figure from every episode of the new series, hence why we ended up with the Hoix and faceless Grandma Connelly.

But even at the height of popularity for the range, people were only really interested in characters from the current series. We only got one widely available wave of classic figures. The second wave had a limited run, and then every single classic figure since then has been either a SDCC exclusive or an exclusive commissioned by Forbidden Planet and Underground Toys. This happened because the classic figures didn't sell well to the general public. And this was at the height of popularity for both the show itself, and the CO toy line - in the UK.

Interest in Doctor Who has increased in the US since then, but overall interest in the show and associated merchandise seems to have crashed.

The CO line nearly died a couple of years ago. They changed the scale to try to appeal to kids, and only focused on Doctors, Daleks and other iconic monsters. And the line still failed.

The 2009 gap year nearly killed things. And Doctor Who has been so inconsistent in its airing since then, that it's difficult to release merchandise to tie in with it. By the time figures get made, the series has finished. And if it's not on again for 2 years, people are going to lose interest.

So yeah - I think they need to wait until the series is on the air to release waves with the current Doctor and companion and monsters from that series. And the older figures should be targeted more at collectors - through exclusives.


Thanks, it's cool to hear that a fellow collector feels the same way, we were incredibly lucky with the depth and breadth of the CO-line but I do wish they'd been able to hang on through the downturn so that we aren't limited to the B&M sets nowadays - of course playing it safe to do that might have meant less cool one offs like Idris so I really don't know. (I was in TRU the other day, and the number of Missy's they had peg-warming was rather disheartening.)

And OMG - your collection - I rapidly whittled down my spending to picking up particularly favoured monsters, Doctors and Masters - but woah it's amazing seeing the whole set together like that on display. I applaud your collection and display - both aspects are impressive as hell.

To my shame I never liked the CO figures all that much, they always seemed dated, gaining in articulation a few years behind other toylines and never compatible with anything else (except really the Primeval line, and that sort of doesn't count given that that show was ITV's attempt at Doctor Who) but their likenesses were usually spot on for something in that price-range and the details were impressive.

My little displays are rather minimalist/surreal - and keep getting moved from the Who-bookshelf (EDAs, VNAs and NSAs mostly) to desk and back again but (can you tell who my favourite Doc is? ;-) ):

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Whilst I do have the playsets and enough figures that they've filled up a large percentage of the storage under the bed even out of box :blush: I always found them such a ridiculous dust-attractor that I've never really dared to have the whole lot out at once like that, I just know that in my dusting endeavours someone would take a tumble and end up missing not just a sonic screwdriver or staser but something more serious like a limb!)

paxderomano wrote:Personally, I want to see more from the 10th Doctor/RTD days. If people say that was too long ago then it doesn't make sense to want Pops from 11s time either. Matt Smith hasn't been the Doctor for years now. At this point, it makes just as much sense to make Mickey, or Milfred, or Donna, as it does to make Amy and Rory. I loved everything about 10s time and was less in love with 11s tenure. Just my two cents, everyone has a Doctor they prefer. :)


Oh definitely - in an ideal world I'd have a wave for every single series of the show - classic and nu-Who, I adored RTD's whole era, his style was a breath of fresh air. Even now, over a decade on those first few series are like witchcraft even taking into account the few dud-episodes and kitchen-sink stuff that a lot of fans still moan about. Hell, if I had my way the comic companions, audio companions and even novel companions would get a go - I'd love a figure of Bernice Summerfield, the original archeologist who did the dirty with the Doctor! Ace with her baseball bat and Nitro9 would make for a fantastic figure too. Destrii and Izzy (the original full-time, out as a lesbian companion) Or... Fitz Kreiner in that leather jacket that fans like to theorise Nine inherited.

I just get the impression that the Doctor Who range is a bit of a tenuous enterprise for Funko even without the flop of Wave 2 happening I just can't see them going as in depth with Who as they've done with Marvel or Star Wars, I mean who'd have ever thought we'd get Squirrel Girl?
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby HarryG5O » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:58 pm

paxderomano wrote:Personally, I want to see more from the 10th Doctor/RTD days. If people say that was too long ago then it doesn't make sense to want Pops from 11s time either. Matt Smith hasn't been the Doctor for years now. At this point, it makes just as much sense to make Mickey, or Milfred, or Donna, as it does to make Amy and Rory. I loved everything about 10s time and was less in love with 11s tenure. Just my two cents, everyone has a Doctor they prefer. :)


I 100% agree. I'm a ten fan too. There's so much potential there. Clockwork droids. Krillitanes. Ood. Cybus Cybermen. Oh....what about the Face of Boe!? That'd be one weird (yet cute) looking Pop!
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby Jezter » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:01 pm

saul_damascus wrote:
paxderomano wrote:Personally, I want to see more from the 10th Doctor/RTD days. If people say that was too long ago then it doesn't make sense to want Pops from 11s time either. Matt Smith hasn't been the Doctor for years now. At this point, it makes just as much sense to make Mickey, or Milfred, or Donna, as it does to make Amy and Rory. I loved everything about 10s time and was less in love with 11s tenure. Just my two cents, everyone has a Doctor they prefer. :)

Ah yes. Good ole Milfred. Who could forget.

I don't think any are too far off. Would love Martha Donna and Mickey.


Milfred? Do you mean Wilfred Mott, Donna's grandfather? :-s

I think I'm in the minority that I just didn't care for Donna at all, and wouldn't rush out to get a Pop of her. Maybe if she had the giant bug on her back, but aside from that, probably be the last one in the wave I'd get.

The only classic Doctor I know well is the 4th, which we have, so aside from that all I'd want is the rest of the Doctors, no companions or variants and then after that I'd just want aliens/creatures from 9, 10, 11 and 12's tenures.

It all boils down to personal preference though and Funko will put out whatever they think will sell well enough to keep the line alive.
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Postby Jezter » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:03 pm

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paxderomano wrote:Personally, I want to see more from the 10th Doctor/RTD days. If people say that was too long ago then it doesn't make sense to want Pops from 11s time either. Matt Smith hasn't been the Doctor for years now. At this point, it makes just as much sense to make Mickey, or Milfred, or Donna, as it does to make Amy and Rory. I loved everything about 10s time and was less in love with 11s tenure. Just my two cents, everyone has a Doctor they prefer. :)


I 100% agree. I'm a ten fan too. There's so much potential there. Clockwork droids. Krillitanes. Ood. Cybus Cybermen. Oh....what about the Face of Boe!? That'd be one weird (yet cute) looking Pop!


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Jezter wrote:
saul_damascus wrote:
paxderomano wrote:Personally, I want to see more from the 10th Doctor/RTD days. If people say that was too long ago then it doesn't make sense to want Pops from 11s time either. Matt Smith hasn't been the Doctor for years now. At this point, it makes just as much sense to make Mickey, or Milfred, or Donna, as it does to make Amy and Rory. I loved everything about 10s time and was less in love with 11s tenure. Just my two cents, everyone has a Doctor they prefer. :)

Ah yes. Good ole Milfred. Who could forget.

I don't think any are too far off. Would love Martha Donna and Mickey.


Milfred? Do you mean Wilfred Mott, Donna's grandfather? :-s

I think I'm in the minority that I just didn't care for Donna at all, and wouldn't rush out to get a Pop of her. Maybe if she had the giant bug on her back, but aside from that, probably be the last one in the wave I'd get.

The only classic Doctor I know well is the 4th, which we have, so aside from that all I'd want is the rest of the Doctors, no companions or variants and then after that I'd just want aliens/creatures from 9, 10, 11 and 12's tenures.

It all boils down to personal preference though and Funko will put out whatever they think will sell well enough to keep the line alive.
Centurion Rory is an easy buy for me, and can't wait to get him!

I was being sarcastic. Quoting the poster paxderdromano.
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Postby Jezter » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:10 pm

saul_damascus wrote:
Jezter wrote:
saul_damascus wrote:Ah yes. Good ole Milfred. Who could forget.

I don't think any are too far off. Would love Martha Donna and Mickey.


Milfred? Do you mean Wilfred Mott, Donna's grandfather? :-s

I think I'm in the minority that I just didn't care for Donna at all, and wouldn't rush out to get a Pop of her. Maybe if she had the giant bug on her back, but aside from that, probably be the last one in the wave I'd get.

The only classic Doctor I know well is the 4th, which we have, so aside from that all I'd want is the rest of the Doctors, no companions or variants and then after that I'd just want aliens/creatures from 9, 10, 11 and 12's tenures.

It all boils down to personal preference though and Funko will put out whatever they think will sell well enough to keep the line alive.
Centurion Rory is an easy buy for me, and can't wait to get him!

I was being sarcastic. Quoting the poster paxderdromano.


Haha, I thought you might be, so I was kind of replying to him. ;-)
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Postby Zero » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:13 pm

ruxy_100 wrote:This is how many figures CO has made over the years, and we still don't have a companion for each Doctor lol

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Postby saul_damascus » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:58 pm

I'm sure we will get a Nardol but does anyone think we will get a 6 inch Hydroflax?
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Postby saul_damascus » Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:12 pm

Ooh a headless Monk with hood up and no face with a variant of the hood down and the neck tied in a knot.

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I would like more aliens :
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Re: HOW DO WE SAVE THE DOCTOR WHO LINE?

Postby Libertyroxx » Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:12 pm

Jezter wrote:
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Milfred? Do you mean Wilfred Mott, Donna's grandfather? :-s

I think I'm in the minority that I just didn't care for Donna at all, and wouldn't rush out to get a Pop of her. Maybe if she had the giant bug on her back, but aside from that, probably be the last one in the wave I'd get.

The only classic Doctor I know well is the 4th, which we have, so aside from that all I'd want is the rest of the Doctors, no companions or variants and then after that I'd just want aliens/creatures from 9, 10, 11 and 12's tenures.

It all boils down to personal preference though and Funko will put out whatever they think will sell well enough to keep the line alive.
Centurion Rory is an easy buy for me, and can't wait to get him!

I was being sarcastic. Quoting the poster paxderdromano.


Haha, I thought you might be, so I was kind of replying to him. ;-)


Hahaha, only just saw that I said Milfred instead of Wilfred! That's what I get for posting at work and not reading. :) Fixed now!
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