Pop for Thought

[jonness]

I was just thinking about how rare the early/early retired pops are

****Heres an example:

Riddler Pop Chase VS Gold Loki 480 Limited

Riddler Pop became retired long ago
Can you find me 480 different Riddler Chases???
If and IF there is 480 Riddler Chases out there, do you believe there is 17, 280 regular Riddlers made????
( there is 1 chase for every 36 regular pops )
I like to believe that THERE IS a small amount of Riddler Chases out there since he retired early and THEREFORE the Riddler Chase is Rarer than Gold Loki 480 Limited.

Same idea for: Batman Error Symbol Chase, Penguin Chase, Batgirl Chase (is she retired?)

This is IMO! Not a Fact!

[unoudid]

I've had the same thoughts before about some of the various pieces. specifically the error chase metallic. I would love to know the actual production runs of some of the regular pops.

[rymichelle]

Great questions and something I've also thought about. I'd love to see what other funatics have to say about this!

[gxwhyelle]

Just adding this: pretty sure batgirl isn't retired I'm gonna sit back and see the responses now. Personally I think the minimum quantity for each piece should be quite high. Not a few K but like at least 10k.

[SnackDaddy]

Yea, you're right, Riddler chase is more rare BUT since we're talking about rarity we probably should be talking about the differences in value, that's what the post is really about

Riddler chase, I'd say can cost around $65-$80

Gold Loki, I'd say can cost around $100-$150

And that makes sense to me, and this is why.

It's not about how rare something is, it's about supply and demand. Gold Loki is recent stuff, from the avengers (record breaking movie) and is played by a pretty good looking dude. The Gold Loki is going to attract people who think Loki is hot, people who love marvel/The avengers, and people who saw the avengers and never even heard of the riddler.

DC is not dead, I know that, but the only DC pop that can even compete with the gold Loki may be the Batmans (because he's been around and has fans from all ages.

Limit the Heath Ledger Joker to 480 pieces and watch that reach $200 in a month.

[bwood056]

so.... you think loki is a good looking dude..

true..

nudes?

aha

[gxwhyelle]

That was a very logical post Huse! But erm. Sorry to say my idiot brain only registered these words

Loki... is played by a pretty good looking dude.
Loki is hot

You're absolutely right Huse.

And erm.

so.... you think loki is a good looking dude..

true..

nudes?

aha

[SnackDaddy]

so.... you think loki is a good looking dude..

true..

nudes?

aha

LoL!! Hey, I'm comfortable enough with my sexuality to know a good looking dude when I see one, nothing wrong with that, hahahaha

Girls love that dude, where's Geescube to help me out?!

[gxwhyelle]

Okay down to business. Actually only reason gold Loki is so pricey is cause Tom Hiddleston's fans will pay any exorbitant amount to get their hands on a piece of Loki. Take them away and if only collectors were buying him the price would drop immensely.

Also riddler chase is like 100 to 150 I don't even remember seeing them at 65-80 other than sellers who don't know the going rate pricing them below market value

[gxwhyelle]

so.... you think loki is a good looking dude..

true..

nudes?

aha

LoL!! Hey, I'm comfortable enough with my sexuality to know a good looking dude when I see one, nothing wrong with that, hahahaha

Girls love that dude, where's Geescube to help me out?!

But I love him too and I'm right here

[TheJobaFett]

Yea, you're right, Riddler chase is more rare BUT since we're talking about rarity we probably should be talking about the differences in value, that's what the post is really about

Riddler chase, I'd say can cost around $65-$80

Gold Loki, I'd say can cost around $100-$150

And that makes sense to me, and this is why.

It's not about how rare something is, it's about supply and demand. Gold Loki is recent stuff, from the avengers (record breaking movie) and is played by a pretty good looking dude. The Gold Loki is going to attract people who think Loki is hot, people who love marvel/The avengers, and people who saw the avengers and never even heard of the riddler.

DC is not dead, I know that, but the only DC pop that can even compete with the gold Loki may be the Batmans (because he's been around and has fans from all ages.

Limit the Heath Ledger Joker to 480 pieces and watch that reach $200 in a month.

This. Rarity is a dependent on demand... If I make a 1 of 3 Jordan pop, and only one person wants it (hopefully my wife), it's not really rare since 2 will always be for sale. Make a 1 Direction 5 pop set and do a 2000 production run and watch the 'rarity' the factor rocket right away cause no one will be selling them. And in a year, they won't be rare anymore because no one will care about 1D

[bwood056]

if they made jordan pops...

with diff unis with his shoes he wore..

those guys would be fetching over 300 a pop..

[shogunjlips]

I'd be curious to find out the percentage of Gold Loki owners that also own Shiny Riddler.

[glowfunkofreak]

so.... you think loki is a good looking dude..

true..

nudes?

aha

... and he knows it too !!

[gxwhyelle]

I'd be curious to find out the percentage of Gold Loki owners that also own Shiny Riddler.

Yeah. Heck i'd like to know the percentage of Gold Loki owners that are not serious pop collectors. I bet many ended up in the hands of Hiddlestoners.

[gxwhyelle]

I'm gonna shut up about Hiddleston now. Darn it, Grace, get a hold of yourself.

[SnackDaddy]

so.... you think loki is a good looking dude..

true..

nudes?

aha

... and he knows it too !!

Lmao!!!! Hahahaha!!

Lets not go overboard now! He's not close to SnackDaddy sexy!! Haha!!

[SnackDaddy]

if they made jordan pops...

with diff unis with his shoes he wore..

those guys would be fetching over 300 a pop..

Nah, I doubt it, people rather spend their money on the shoes. He should sell for $23 and limit edition ones should go for $45

That would be sick!

[jgordini]

I have wondered about the actual topic (before it got off track with Loki's hotness, ). Specifically, my wonders are on the Joker Bobblehead chase. Also I have thought about this when watching some EBay items for customs. (Not knocking the customizer) but what makes a Snake Eyes custom sell at $130 and a Venom at $55. Both are on the simpler side of customs (again not knocking the customizers), both are not made by Funko yet for some reason one sold for more. Very interesting topic on how rare an item is and then how that relates to cost

[shogunjlips]

Darn it, Grace, get a hold of yourself.

Settle down now, lets keep this PG13.

[bwood056]

if they made jordan pops...

with diff unis with his shoes he wore..

those guys would be fetching over 300 a pop..

Nah, I doubt it, people rather spend their money on the shoes. He should sell for $23 and limit edition ones should go for $45

That would be sick!

bro...

have you seen the jordan figures that came out recently ?

like 600 and something, things were being purchased at that ridiculous price tag.

granted the craftsmanship is extremely nice.

[MyLittleFunkos]

if they made jordan pops...

with diff unis with his shoes he wore..

those guys would be fetching over 300 a pop..

Nah, I doubt it, people rather spend their money on the shoes. He should sell for $23 and limit edition ones should go for $45

That would be sick!

bro...

have you seen the jordan figures that came out recently ?

like 600 and something, things were being purchased at that ridiculous price tag.

granted the craftsmanship is extremely nice.

I don't know, it's comparing apples to oranges. The Jordan figures fetching those prices are ridiculously detailed and something I would consider a work of art. All the NBA POPs look pretty darn similar. I would imagine a Jordan POP would be no different. I live in Chicago and I have yet to see a single Rose pop anywhere I've gone, including the United Center. Granted, Rose is no Jordan (yet?), but he's the closest thing we've had in a long time. I just don't see Jordan POPs having a huge demand outside of the Funko collectors who also happen to be avid sports fans.

[Giselle]

Yea, you're right, Riddler chase is more rare BUT since we're talking about rarity we probably should be talking about the differences in value, that's what the post is really about

Riddler chase, I'd say can cost around $65-$80

Gold Loki, I'd say can cost around $100-$150

And that makes sense to me, and this is why.

It's not about how rare something is, it's about supply and demand. Gold Loki is recent stuff, from the avengers (record breaking movie) and is played by a pretty good looking dude. The Gold Loki is going to attract people who think Loki is hot, people who love marvel/The avengers, and people who saw the avengers and never even heard of the riddler.

DC is not dead, I know that, but the only DC pop that can even compete with the gold Loki may be the Batmans (because he's been around and has fans from all ages.

Limit the Heath Ledger Joker to 480 pieces and watch that reach $200 in a month.

This man is wise beyond his years haha. Loki was my first piece because I love the character so much, it's him and this board that got me into collecting . I'd be sad is they limited the Ledger Joker because that would be just another expensive Pop to get

[Joker_Heath]

... If I make a 1 of 3 Jordan pop, and only one person wants it (hopefully my wife), it's not really rare since 2 will always be for sale.

I'm sure you guys recognize Joba was posting about a Pop of HIMSELF, right?

I personally own both Loki's and both Riddler's.

And I'd rather have the Riddler, the Joker and/or Robin Chase over the Penguin. But because I have all those, kinda NEED Penguin too.....he's retired and darned limited.

[gruppetstudios]

so.... you think loki is a good looking dude..

true..

nudes?

aha

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[Giselle]

so.... you think loki is a good looking dude..

true..

nudes?

aha

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LOL I love Nostalgia Critic! And he pretty much hit the nail on the head .

[TheJobaFett]

I don't know, it's comparing apples to oranges. The Jordan figures fetching those prices are ridiculously detailed and something I would consider a work of art. All the NBA POPs look pretty darn similar. I would imagine a Jordan POP would be no different. I live in Chicago and I have yet to see a single Rose pop anywhere I've gone, including the United Center. Granted, Rose is no Jordan (yet?), but he's the closest thing we've had in a long time. I just don't see Jordan POPs having a huge demand outside of the Funko collectors who also happen to be avid sports fans.

I should be clear... I was talking about Jordan me not Michael Jordan...

[TheJobaFett]

... If I make a 1 of 3 Jordan pop, and only one person wants it (hopefully my wife), it's not really rare since 2 will always be for sale.

I'm sure you guys recognize Joba was posting about a Pop of HIMSELF, right?

I personally own both Loki's and both Riddler's.

And I'd rather have the Riddler, the Joker and/or Robin Chase over the Penguin. But because I have all those, kinda NEED Penguin too.....he's retired and darned limited.

I'm surprised it took that long for anyone to catch that:)

[jonness]

I have wondered about the actual topic (before it got off track with Loki's hotness, ). Specifically, my wonders are on the Joker Bobblehead chase. Also I have thought about this when watching some EBay items for customs. (Not knocking the customizer) but what makes a Snake Eyes custom sell at $130 and a Venom at $55. Both are on the simpler side of customs (again not knocking the customizers), both are not made by Funko yet for some reason one sold for more. Very interesting topic on how rare an item is and then how that relates to cost

If you're referring to my venom prices being cheaper than snake eyes, its because im not all about money. I did a lot of customs for super cheap before with more than 5 hours put into it. You do the math, its less than $5 per hour of work! But if anyone remembers one of my previous threads, I did it to make others happyy and thats a goal I still strive for.

In regards to your joker bobble chase, I like to say he is super rarer than sdcc 2010 exclusives

[JuicemanRJ]

Like everyone has said, it's about demand. The Snake Eyes and Venom can be like the Gold Loki and Riddler Chase. The Snake Eyes started at bids and just happened to get high due to demand. The same thing that would happen with a Gold Loki starting at $0.99, would end around $85-$100 probably just based on demand. Demand determines the price of these. Look at the Ugly Dolls, limited to 480, but can't even sell for basically nothing vs Loki in the same limited edition sells for $85+.

[mindblowin02]

There are a lot of "Error" batmans out there, so probably a decent amount of "Error" batman chases.

The "Error" was a production "Error" so all of the first batman's made were that way, and they were corrected in production.

So are there less of them the "Regular" batman chases? Yes. Since there are a ton of Batman Pops made. But how many? Who knows.

We don't know how many cases were made and shipped before they caught the "Error" and corrected the mistake. But it was probably a decent amount.

[jonness]

Like everyone has said, it's about demand. The Snake Eyes and Venom can be like the Gold Loki and Riddler Chase. The Snake Eyes started at bids and just happened to get high due to demand. The same thing that would happen with a Gold Loki starting at $0.99, would end around $85-$100 probably just based on demand. Demand determines the price of these. Look at the Ugly Dolls, limited to 480, but can't even sell for basically nothing vs Loki in the same limited edition sells for $85+.

that's very true

[stronggrylls]

In Australia, we get a chase for every 100 ordered and riddler / penguin isnt retired here yet in which they are only $15. Ive seen people list these pops on ebay for >$30 now that theyre retired. I would say that a chase riddler is more rare than a gold Loki.

[joshua_s4]

I'd be curious to find out the percentage of Gold Loki owners that also own Shiny Riddler.

Yeah. Heck i'd like to know the percentage of Gold Loki owners that are not serious pop collectors. I bet many ended up in the hands of Hiddlestoners.

To be fair I have both the regular and SDCC version of Loki and do not have a Chase Riddler. But I am a serious collector. I am still searching for the Riddler at a fair price.

[joshua_s4]

But truthfully it's supply & demand. Or it could just be flippers trying to make money. Funko is becoming more and more popular and flippers are seeing more chances with the real collectors to make easy money. We're going to see this right after SDCC when all the exclusives comes out. Especially the 9", assuming Freddy, comes out.

[DocRamon]

In Australia, we get a chase for every 100 ordered and riddler / penguin isnt retired here yet in which they are only $15. Ive seen people list these pops on ebay for >$30 now that theyre retired. I would say that a chase riddler is more rare than a gold Loki.

this is something that can't be overlooked... international markets can dramtically change things, and we've seen evidence of that here many times before.

for example... glow spider-man is "limited" to 240 from gemini but also "limited" to 1000 in japan. and sdcc metallic spider-man was "limited" to 480 at SDCC, but then also packed in with the spider-man blu-ray in a deluxe set in japan -- no idea how many of those were mass produced. as said, penguin and riddler are still shipping in australia, as are many other "retired" pops.

so ultimately, the point is, we've seen those "supply" numbers changed and manipulated so many times that it's hard to really take any edition size too seriously -- particularly when it comes to popular characters like superheroes. (i don't think funko will suddenly make another run of metallic freddy stark that's "exclusive" to, say, south africa.) the primary driving force behind the prices will be demand.

that's what puts 1/480 batman variations creeping near and over $100 and $200... while 1/48 uglydolls are hard to sell for $50. edition size is basically meaningless -- batman is crazy popular and uglydolls get no love.

[gokou105]

In Australia, we get a chase for every 100 ordered and riddler / penguin isnt retired here yet in which they are only $15. Ive seen people list these pops on ebay for >$30 now that theyre retired. I would say that a chase riddler is more rare than a gold Loki.

this is something that can't be overlooked... international markets can dramtically change things, and we've seen evidence of that here many times before.

for example... glow spider-man is "limited" to 240 from gemini but also "limited" to 1000 in japan. and sdcc metallic spider-man was "limited" to 480 at SDCC, but then also packed in with the spider-man blu-ray in a deluxe set in japan -- no idea how many of those were mass produced. as said, penguin and riddler are still shipping in australia, as are many other "retired" pops.

so ultimately, the point is, we've seen those "supply" numbers changed and manipulated so many times that it's hard to really take any edition size too seriously -- particularly when it comes to popular characters like superheroes. (i don't think funko will suddenly make another run of metallic freddy stark that's "exclusive" to, say, south africa.) the primary driving force behind the prices will be demand.

that's what puts 1/480 batman variations creeping near and over $100 and $200... while 1/48 uglydolls are hard to sell for $50. edition size is basically meaningless -- batman is crazy popular and uglydolls get no love.

I have to agree with you after what you have just mentioned. Don't know why Funko retired figures here but not in other countries. I saw the back of a DC Comics box (newer one) they listed the 1st and 2nd series except for penguin and joker. I wonder if the international boxes are like that.

I do own the gold Loki and riddler chase.

I think the snake eyes custom sold for more because there are way more snake eyes fan out there. There are plenty of GI Joe fans and snake eyes is one of the most popular character in the show. Who wouldn't like a ninja that doesn't talk and that has a dog? Lol

[GraphicSilence]

Trying to find a Gold Loki is what brought me to this forum and ultimately helped me to become a funatic. I wasn't a collector. Just someone looking specifically for the Loki pop for Lex. I wanted to get it as a present because she loves Loki and Hiddleston . I had no idea why the Loki piece was so expensive and the other pops I found were like $9 so I started researching pops, then funko in general. So I would say you are probably right that most of the people that own Loki aren't even collectors. They are probably like I was; a person just looking for a Loki item specifically.

(Just my two cents after reading the first page only. Now to read the second page. :P )

[shogunjlips]

I think the snake eyes custom sold for more because there are way more snake eyes fan out there. There are plenty of GI Joe fans and snake eyes is one of the most popular character in the show. Who wouldn't like a ninja that doesn't talk and that has a dog? Lol

Not sure about that. I'd think the audience is much bigger for Spider-Man than GI Joe, hence, there being more Venom fans than Snake Eyes.

Perhaps the Snake Eyes is viewed as a more unique custom opposed to Venom which would ultimately fetch more $$.

[JuicemanRJ]

I think the snake eyes custom sold for more because there are way more snake eyes fan out there. There are plenty of GI Joe fans and snake eyes is one of the most popular character in the show. Who wouldn't like a ninja that doesn't talk and that has a dog? Lol

Not sure about that. I'd think the audience is much bigger for Spider-Man than GI Joe, hence, there being more Venom fans than Snake Eyes.

Perhaps the Snake Eyes is viewed as a more unique custom opposed to Venom which would ultimately fetch more $$.

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