Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby Kaljor » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:21 pm

lcarus83 wrote:
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Legion Of Boom wrote:I'm still looking for one, but don't want to spend $100-$200...so I guess I won't be getting one anytime soon lol


I'm a Batman collector, and I just can't with these prices. Hopefully someone will come through and be able to help out, but ebay is not an option right now with the $$$ they are asking for.


Agreed. If i were to spend that kind of change Id get an older pop on my list


Or wait to see if the market ever starts to decline and get older pop figures for much cheaper!?!
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Postby valorandvellum » Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:56 pm

Whooooooaaaaaa, guys! I think it's probably best to try and keep things civil, if possible.
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Postby Zae05 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:56 pm

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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby Poldyman » Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:59 pm

I'm fine, i am not worked over up over tiny stuff like others might.

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Postby Jango_Fresh » Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:00 pm

Deleting a few of the comments, try to keep it clean guys, you can say what you gotta say without insults.
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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby poppetmaster » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:24 pm

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Jango_Fresh wrote:Deleting a few of the comments, try to keep it clean guys, you can say what you gotta say without insults.


I like how selective and biased the modding is around here :rolleyes:

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Postby Chemo_Nchicago » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:48 pm

I managed to trade for mine. Glad I could keep my batman collection at 98% complete :D
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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby valorandvellum » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:55 pm

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Jango_Fresh wrote:Deleting a few of the comments, try to keep it clean guys, you can say what you gotta say without insults.


I like how selective and biased the modding is around here :rolleyes:


How was it biased? Both comments that crossed the line were removed.
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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby Jcrotty56 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:52 pm

New collector here. Since I saw this thread I've checked my only Target store within about 100 miles of me (no exaggeration) few times every week with no luck. Tonight I got lucky and got the Joker exclusive. It was probably very odd to hear a 37 year old man yell "sweet!" in the middle of the toy section haha. It's not anywhere near the Batman one but I'm still pretty pumped. Half of the fun of this collecting is the hunt!
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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby Fawk » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:00 am

Jcrotty56 wrote:New collector here. Since I saw this thread I've checked my only Target store within about 100 miles of me (no exaggeration) few times every week with no luck. Tonight I got lucky and got the Joker exclusive. It was probably very odd to hear a 37 year old man yell "sweet!" in the middle of the toy section haha. It's not anywhere near the Batman one but I'm still pretty pumped. Half of the fun of this collecting is the hunt!


Congrats on the Joker find :)

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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby valorandvellum » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:22 am

Jcrotty56 wrote:New collector here. Since I saw this thread I've checked my only Target store within about 100 miles of me (no exaggeration) few times every week with no luck. Tonight I got lucky and got the Joker exclusive. It was probably very odd to hear a 37 year old man yell "sweet!" in the middle of the toy section haha. It's not anywhere near the Batman one but I'm still pretty pumped. Half of the fun of this collecting is the hunt!

Yes, the thrill of the hunt is one of the best parts :-) Congrats!
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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby DookSkyWalker » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:30 am

It's funny cause I had like 2 batmans on day 1 that I put back and I'm seeing the prices on eBay and I'm kicking myself
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Postby nyel24 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:29 pm

i found a joker at my target but no batman.
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Postby MorbidGee » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:36 pm

I'm still hoping to get one , but the prices definitely scare me :) I will wait it out and hopefully catch one for a decent price :)
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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby TheCollector » Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:13 pm

Chemo_Nchicago wrote:I managed to trade for mine. Glad I could keep my batman collection at 98% complete :D

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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby alex_dewitt » Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:37 am

I was just looking at the mist recent ebay listings and honestly I was quite shocked and I feel sorry for those that have to pay these horrendous prices due to an unnecessary hyped aftermarket value that was created by limiting it to a minimum. First of all I have no interest in this Pop, I just can't understand why one of the most popular characters in pop form is made unobtainable at a human price for many. Batman has so many fans and so many people feel left out here.

I know what can happen and that the value can drop A LOT in the future, but I really think this should have been/be handled better if Funko wants to do this again because for a fact some Targets and therefor some people never even got the chance to buy this in-store and had to go to ebay to obtain this piece.
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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby Poldyman » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:35 am

alex_dewitt wrote:I was just looking at the mist recent ebay listings and honestly I was quite shocked and I feel sorry for those that have to pay these horrendous prices due to an unnecessary hyped aftermarket value that was created by limiting it to a minimum. First of all I have no interest in this Pop, I just can't understand why one of the most popular characters in pop form is made unobtainable at a human price for many. Batman has so many fans and so many people feel left out here.

I know what can happen and that the value can drop A LOT in the future, but I really think this should have been/be handled better if Funko wants to do this again because for a fact some Targets and therefor some people never even got the chance to buy this in-store and had to go to ebay to obtain this piece.


The writing is on the wall it was funko hyping it as a very limited piece that encouraged some pos flippers aka collectors that we have here into clearing stores out and then go flip on the bay for 45+ on day one, therefore not giving a chance to others to grab a piece in store.

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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby Sir Real » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:19 pm

valorandvellum wrote:
Jcrotty56 wrote: ... Half of the fun of this collecting is the hunt!

Yes, the thrill of the hunt is one of the best parts :-) Congrats!

To clarify, it's the thrill of the discovery, not just the hunt, isn't it? Because there's nothing thrilling about going hunting for something and then not finding it.

And since the Zur-en-Arrh Bats was a one time shipment, you're not going to find him in the stores now.

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Postby valorandvellum » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:43 pm

Sir Real wrote:And since the Zur-en-Arrh Bats was a one time shipment, you're not going to find him in the stores now.


Someone from Kentucky said their shipments came in super late and their Batmans just came in last week. So maybe there is still hope for more rural places? Not very much hope, but something lol
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Postby treswright » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:31 pm

Poldyman wrote:The writing is on the wall it was funko hyping it as a very limited piece that encouraged some pos flippers aka collectors that we have here into clearing stores out and then go flip on the bay for 45+ on day one, therefore not giving a chance to others to grab a piece in store.


At least no one is bitter about it lol There was a clip of an interview with one of the Funko rep's and he basically acknowledged that this promotion didn't go well and in the future they would suggest higher production numbers to anyone that approaches them about a similar exclusive. We have to keep in mind that Funko is not ordering the exclusives, they are the ones designing and making them. They are not (primarily anyway) a retailer. Retailers like Target approach them with a request such as "we want you to do a Batman exclusive for us, and we're going to order 3k units". So the shortage is really Target's fault, not Funko's. However, Funko can educate them by using what happened as an example in the future- "hey, we did an exclusive for Target at 3k units and it was madness, few of their customers were able to get them because resellers grabbed them all up to resell on eBay, so we would suggest you increase your quantity to avoid the same problem." That's all we can ask as consumers, and they've already said they are going to do that moving forward.
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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby jagpop » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:32 pm

If you can afford it and want it, get it now before they disappear on eBay or go even higher in price. I might pull the trigger on it.
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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby Fawk » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:07 pm

Being a huge Batman fan I also felt the "need" to get this one. I was fortunate and went to a local Target and grabbed 2, left one on the shelf on the release week. The second one I sold for cost to a HotTopic friend. I won't lie, but I wish I picked up the third one for using in a future trade. I don't regret selling one to a buddy for cost.

My personal cap I will spend on a single POP is $100, so at this point I'd count this one as unobtainable, which would make me bitter on the topic like a lot of folks. The thing is I like the idea of a very limited released POP like this. It's unfortunate they selected Batman under such a limited release, and didn't open it up to Non-US residents, employees may have grabbed a good deal, people cleared out shelves, and some stores didn't get any stocked, etc etc. I'd like to see more limited truly exclusive POPs, but with a larger production run, and possibly purchasing limits.

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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby ryanc_ » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:26 pm

I like the limited number also, just think that now that we see this batman going for ridiculous prices, it puts target employees who might feel the urge to buy it themselves in a situation they ideally would not be placed in. If they could somehow ship the shipments with even more explicit instructions about how to sell and locate these, that would be great, like one per customer and employees can't buy them unless they have been stocked all day and not sold. There is already evidence that funko increased the amount of instructions given for this release by having such a hard street date. I screwed up by not being more vigilant about the release date so even though I want it, I know I probably could have had it if I tried harder during release, so I blame myself and don't have a problem with the limited number on it, just some room for improvement on the release details.

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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby Megacam » Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:15 pm

I also really enjoy the truly limited runs. Will I own many of them...no. Will I treasure the ones that I can get...yes. It was posted when the ZEA Bats would be for sale and they were shipped all around the country. I won't make it to SDCC to have a chance at any of the limited pops sold there at "cost", or to score a sweet Conan pop for a good price, or to get any of the limited Pop Up Shop pops. I collect star wars and may never get a Conan storm trooper for a decent price...but I don't feel entitled to one.
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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby jhorsley23 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:37 pm

I'm bitter just because Batman is my favorite character and Zur En Arrh is my favorite batsuit.

I fell in love with it during the Grant Morrison "Batman R.I.P." run. I've been hoping for a Zur En Arrh Batman POP for a couple years now, so it sucks that they finally made it and I'll never have it.

With that being said though, I understand it's borderline obscure, so even though it's a favorite of mine, most people probably don't know or care about it, so if you have to have a limited quantity Batman POP, this is probably the best choice. Sucks for me though. Lol

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Postby doctony » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:01 pm

I can't believe the prices people are selling this for. Just crazy!

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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby Rex Mason » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:20 pm

jhorsley23 wrote:I'm bitter just because Batman is my favorite character and Zur En Arrh is my favorite batsuit.

I fell in love with it during the Grant Morrison "Batman R.I.P." run. I've been hoping for a Zur En Arrh Batman POP for a couple years now, so it sucks that they finally made it and I'll never have it.

With that being said though, I understand it's borderline obscure, so even though it's a favorite of mine, most people probably don't know or care about it, so if you have to have a limited quantity Batman POP, this is probably the best choice. Sucks for me though. Lol


I'm a huge fan of that Morrison run and of the original Planet-X story line. Honestly, I think hard to find variants like this should be a comic accurate repaint, but something similar to the silver Hot Topic exclusive. That my collection can do without. Accurate Batsuits, however, make me really upset when I can't find them (this being the first).

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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby RobinBear177 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:00 pm

One of my favorite Batmans is Retro Batman because it's comic accurate. Even though he's not worth anything really he is one of my fave pops.
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Postby psychedelico83 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:50 am

$200++ for this is simply ridiculous

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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby alex_dewitt » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:09 am

Poldyman wrote:
alex_dewitt wrote:I was just looking at the mist recent ebay listings and honestly I was quite shocked and I feel sorry for those that have to pay these horrendous prices due to an unnecessary hyped aftermarket value that was created by limiting it to a minimum. First of all I have no interest in this Pop, I just can't understand why one of the most popular characters in pop form is made unobtainable at a human price for many. Batman has so many fans and so many people feel left out here.

I know what can happen and that the value can drop A LOT in the future, but I really think this should have been/be handled better if Funko wants to do this again because for a fact some Targets and therefor some people never even got the chance to buy this in-store and had to go to ebay to obtain this piece.


The writing is on the wall it was funko hyping it as a very limited piece that encouraged some pos flippers aka collectors that we have here into clearing stores out and then go flip on the bay for 45+ on day one, therefore not giving a chance to others to grab a piece in store.

That was not what I was trying to say. Of course a situation like this encourages flippers but pointing fingers at people is wrong here.

I have to add one thing to what I said. It's not Funko which are to blame here or let's say you can only criticize them for announcing the limited number a bit late. As it was a Target promo, they are responsible for the number they order. It's also Target's responsibility to distribute the entiry quantity in a fair way so that everyone has a fair chance.

From that interview with one of Funko's marketing (I think) officials, it seems they know they have to improve the info, distribution etc. about these super rare and limited pieces. :)
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Postby NavyCop » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:06 pm

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So the shortage is really Target's fault, not Funko's


When Funko does the marketing for it and uses the term "Ultra Rare" and enjoy the hunt it sets off a feeding frenzy. Toss enough blood in the water and you get sharks. Yeah Funko is partly to blame on this one when they call it Ultra Rare and then when asked wont mention the production size. If several thousand pieces is ultra rare, what is a SDCC numbered item?
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Postby valorandvellum » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:13 pm

I'm not sure how else Funko should have phrased it though. If they didn't say it was very rare, then collectors would be mad that there wasn't fair warning about the low quantities. So no matter what they say or don't say, there will be unhappy people who don't feel that it's fair. Kinda puts them in a tough position due to Target's choices.
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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby RobinBear177 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:20 pm

Someone said that in a Q&A on twitter Funko said they'd announce the number os Zurs they actually made. Anyone see that or hear anything. Could have just been BS but I don't know I don't have twitter.
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Postby The Head » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:32 pm

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Yeah Funko is partly to blame on this one when they call it Ultra Rare and then when asked wont mention the production size. If several thousand pieces is ultra rare, what is a SDCC numbered item?


This is 100% right in my opinion. I admit that I probably don't know much about production sizes, but 3k doesn't seem ultra rare to me given the limited nature of alot of con exclusives. The hype was unnecessary and I don't buy that they would have angered collectors if they didn't make a formal statement about it. They could have easily let the dust settle at least a couple weeks before lighting the fire for the flippers benefit. I do put more blame on target for this, but funko should not be given the free pass alot folks on here seem willing to give them. As long as they learn from it and do better next time though, I guess that's all you can ask.

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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby NavyCop » Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:50 pm

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As long as they learn from it and do better next time though, I guess that's all you can ask.



Learn from what? Black Friday they called the Gold "Chase" figures "Super Rare" and the feeding frenzy began, not that its hard to set it off that day. I think the marketing team does exactly what they are paid to do, clear shelves. If they can find ways to help show their largest accounts like Target/Gamestop/etc that through marketing tactics that they can spin the collectors in to buying everything out quickly they get yet more money from the large retailers. The funny part is this is toy marketing 101, you never want to release the production size on an item you want to hype.

I for one applaud the Funko Marketing team, they have shown this collector community never really learns. Its awesome for the large retailers to see, its just tough to watch newer collectors keep getting sucked in.

Before i get flamed im not being negative, i like watching Funko expand and this is how you do it. Get the largest retailers to keep taking exclusives and support their sales through incredible marketing.
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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby popninja » Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:58 pm

:-k Is target still getting these? Still can't find one.

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Postby bryan_sato54 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:29 pm

prices on the batman is insane...I wouldn't pay anything over 50 for this pop...but thats just my opinion
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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby Chase Variant » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:43 pm

Rex Mason wrote:
jhorsley23 wrote:I'm bitter just because Batman is my favorite character and Zur En Arrh is my favorite batsuit.

I fell in love with it during the Grant Morrison "Batman R.I.P." run. I've been hoping for a Zur En Arrh Batman POP for a couple years now, so it sucks that they finally made it and I'll never have it.

With that being said though, I understand it's borderline obscure, so even though it's a favorite of mine, most people probably don't know or care about it, so if you have to have a limited quantity Batman POP, this is probably the best choice. Sucks for me though. Lol


I'm a huge fan of that Morrison run and of the original Planet-X story line. Honestly, I think hard to find variants like this should be a comic accurate repaint, but something similar to the silver Hot Topic exclusive. That my collection can do without. Accurate Batsuits, however, make me really upset when I can't find them (this being the first).


I'm still hoping for an accurate Batman RIP ZEA Batman. This Target one is from "The Superman of Planet-X".

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Re: Zur En Arrh Batman (Target)

Postby The Head » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:13 am

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Learn from what? Black Friday they called the Gold "Chase" figures "Super Rare" and the feeding frenzy began, not that its hard to set it off that day. I think the marketing team does exactly what they are paid to do, clear shelves. If they can find ways to help show their largest accounts like Target/Gamestop/etc that through marketing tactics that they can spin the collectors in to buying everything out quickly they get yet more money from the large retailers. The funny part is this is toy marketing 101, you never want to release the production size on an item you want to hype.


Come on! Even the staunchest of Funko supporters has to admit this could have been handled better. Even Funko has admitted it apparently.

I don't mean to come across as confrontational, but the marketing team is clearing shelves? The targets near me do not have clear shelves in the Funko area by any stretch of the imagination. They have mounds of commons, most of which have been available at other stores for several weeks, that are not moving because everyone comes in there for the exclusives, see none, and then leave. To be perfectly honest, if I found a Batman exclusive, I would actually be more likely to buy something else so explain that one to me!?! It's one thing to drive traffic, but quite another to drive traffic that actually results in a sale. Collectors buying everything up is simply not happening so the brilliant marketing tactics you speak of don't seem to be working very well for my Targets. And if that is the case nationwide, which I think it is, it could have the opposite effect because Target will see this initiative as a bust and end their partnership with Funko or reduce their orders. That's probably a long way from happening and I hope it doesn't, but that is what I mean by learning from their mistakes. Funko acknowledged the Target Batman could have been handled better and hopefully the next one will be.

Also, I couldn't care less if they don't release production sizes or if all this is marketing 101. I guess breaking from the status quo isn't allowed, eh?

NavyCop wrote:I for one applaud the Funko Marketing team, they have shown this collector community never really learns. Its awesome for the large retailers to see, its just tough to watch newer collectors keep getting sucked in.


Not really sure what you mean here...it's late, might just be a brain cramp.

NavyCop wrote:Before i get flamed im not being negative, i like watching Funko expand and this is how you do it. Get the largest retailers to keep taking exclusives and support their sales through incredible marketing.


It's not about being "negative", it just irks me when people act like the companies they support can do no wrong. I support Funko as much as anyone here (financially at least :)), but that doesn't mean they are above reproach. In my opinion, the hype machine alienated exactly who you say this was aimed at...collectors. Personally, I think this whole thing had the casual fan in mind, not collectors, because that is probably where Funko can stand to expand the most (aside from new licenses). Let's be honest, except for exclusives, not many collectors are going to Target and Walmart for their Funko products. In most cases at these stores, stock is inconsistent and unorganized, box condition is often an issue, and most employees are not knowledgeable about the product at all. The expanded sections at Target and Walmart may have been an attempt to change the mindset, but I don't think that was accomplished, do you? At least not yet.

Also, I have said this before and I firmly believe it...Funko really needs to decide what it wants to be - a company who makes toys or a company who makes collectibles - BEFORE they expand too rapidly. If it's the former, rapid expansion is probably the direction they need to take and gaining a larger footprint in Target and Walmart makes sense. If the latter, rapid growth is likely not the right path because big box retailers like Target and Walmart will not have their best interests in mind and they could end up getting a bad reputation with their core customer - collectors - as a result of the retailers' decisions.

Anyway, rant over. Nothing personal so I hope you don't take it that way. Just my perspective. :cheers:

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